Nature and equal Money. A personal experience.

Nature and equal Money. A personal experience.

Living on the Dseteni farm for about three years now I have worked with nature and the animals that come naturally in the wild at the river and the fields etc. and quite a lot.

I have learned and seen many different bugs and I have encounters little bucks and Big Nile monitor lizards, I have seen weird wacky frogs and I have caught many fish and cared for them (tilapia Fish), I have saved little baby birds and I have seen eagles catch our chickens in front of our eyes.

So even with all these new experiences that I have had and still having I haven’t encountered any big animal species such as elephants and lions and crocodiles and tigers, you know the type you only see in Zoo’s or wild life reserves because that is the only place you will see them now.

So my experience is still only that of a small scale but yet it is a beginning and a perspective on how things can work with animals in an equal money system and thus I will share some points that I am facing currently that can be faces.

We have to take the following into consideration, in an equal money system money will not be a problem at all, thus if any problem or situation comes forth that needs direction it will get immediate direction because money is taken out of the equation, and thus money does not decide if the animals lives or dies according to how much money you have.

This is the kind of scenarios that we face here on the farm with the animals we find and encounter such as the Nile Monitor Lizard, which is a Lizard that grows up to 2.1m in length and can weigh up to 55Kg. They eat anything that they can fit into their mouths and the are dangerous if they are wild.

So we have a couple here on the farm in the river and they ate a few of our ducks and bit a few of our chickens that dies or had to be killed in the end from infections and so forth. So here is the scenario that most people will take to act on.

current monetary situation and actions that will take place:
The chickens that got killed and the ducks that got killed by the lizards is a loss of profit, thus the Lizards has to be killed because the owners of the chickens cannot afford to lose chickens because then they will not be able to pay for their hammer and the jet ski, thus the lizards will not be considered as life and they will simply be killed and the farmers will be happy, not considering the side effects that this will have on future generations on the environments and earth, because these lizards are here for a purpose unlike the humans an their homes was taken away from them by the humans and now they get killed because they need food like any other beings.

Equal money system situation and actions that will/can be taken:
This example comes from the farm and what we are already doing with what we can do even while still in the current money system, but we do it.
instead of killing the lizards to save the chickens and just to save money (as money is given more value than life currently) we are catching the lizards and building them a enclosure, we will within the enclosure re- produce the natural environment where they come from and we will but a pond in with fish and frogs and snails and we will put real plants in and we will make it all real for them in the enclosure, the difference will be that we will be able to now Monitor the Monitor lizards and in the same process interact with them as I am already doing, rubbing them picking them up and bonding with them. This is obviously a temporary solution till an equal money system is in place, then we will give mountains to them with the rest of the animals that is currently in captivity in reserve for the future. Because we humans take up all the land not because it is practical, but because we want to make profit so we make a lot of the same thing because people love consuming un necessary crap and thus life as the animals and plants and earth has to suffer for it.

So when money is no problem animals and life is placed first and taken care of equally, and this is what we are doing on the farm for the animals on such a small scale, it costs a lot of money taking everything into consideration, we will feed them rats and chickens such as the roosters, and obviously they eat fish which will be in the pond and frogs and snails etc. And then it is monitored and not random and making a loss that affects the whole environment currently.

So if one sees the common sense and the great possibilities that are possible with in an equal money system and how we will be able to restore earth back to its natural ways in equality for all life through day to day interactions with the environment with in and as the physical. Because currently nobody wants to make time for it and cant because everyone has to constantly surviving for food and a roof etc.

In and equal money system this will all change, your work will actually become your daily life and interaction with the physical reality and Nature, where people do this now as a hobby or for fun, in an equal money system it can be your job for real because you are already taken care of within an equal money system and thus you can now take care of life and have fun with it all.

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Labour and equal money. A personal experience.

I have been on the Desteni farm for some time now, about three years, and while being here I have done allot of labour.

I have built houses, I have made trenches and I have planted trees and I have cut grass and raked it up, I have worked with horses and trimming their hoofs, I have built walls, I have done hundreds of meters of fencing, I have done so many thing that is seen as labour.

I did not do the labour because it was my specific job description, I did the labour because it was here and it was needed to be done.

So everyone else that came to the farm for a month or more, some came for a year etc, they all joined in automatically with in doing the labour and applying themselves in the physical activities that was here.

If we needed more rooms we would build them, if we needed a greenhouse for vegetables, we would all start working on it, if we needed more chicken coops for the chickens we would all built it together and we would learn together as we go how to do it.

So none of us knew how to do it from the beginning or none of us really specialized or studied how to do it before hand, we would learn and educate ourselves as we go with in using and doing what is practical and common sense and what is here, supporting and assisting each other to get the jobs done.

It because a expression, when there was things that was needed to be done such as big tasks as building a house we all would jump in together get it done and then after the task we all would go back to our other priorities.

For instance some would be in charge of feeding the chickens and looking after them and then the others would be doing the vegetables and the others would be doing the gardening such as cleaning and checking fencing and for holes etc, and then someone ells would be doing the ducks, and someone ells would be preparing food for the group and someone ells would be doing laundry. You know all the other points that is needed daily and can be done by one being as their point of responsibility and point of input as an equal in the community.

And what motivated us all to do these things was the one point of equality, we all had equal support, we had food, we had water, we had a room, internet, showers, entertainment such a playing pool or darts or swimming, we had a good place here and it was all taken care of, we did not have to worry about money as being an obstacle at an individual level so to say. So all fear and survival and all the un necessary complications was taken out and put back to points of simplicity.

So we all had the time and resources to focus on what is here and how to apply ourselves.

So i can with in this see how things will change within an equal money system and how people will work together and have fun while doing it.

And it will work. It’s really simple once money isn’t a problem anymore. Thus I recommend equal money as the solution, and once one study the 4 year labor system and how it will function then what i say can be seen in more of a systematic way then randomness.

and obviously waht I share here can be how it can function in an equal money system and also what a person will be busy with aftre they have done their 4 year labour. so instead of working everyday for bullshit such as selling jewelry or designer cloths, one will be doing all the daily tasks in life that has got to do with all beings and not just self interest, because it will not be nessasary and you will be taken care of by the system with all basic needs.

and fun wi;; become equal for all and actually be enjoyed.

Any questions, ask me in the comment box, I will answer and obviously there is a lot more to my experiences and how labour can work with in an equal money system. This is a simple short giving example.

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Leafs on the lawn/garden

Leafs on the lawn.

As A young kid I loved watching and hearing the leafs falling from the trees as they dried out from the cold and onto the lawn, I enjoyed kicking it and running through it.

We had quite a lot of trees so the leafs was like a blanket over the grass, I also liked how it looked and to see the naked trees was quite funny for me, I could see all the nests of the birds and plastic bags.

After a week of watching the leafs fall down and covering the grass, and once the trees was naked the gardener would come on the weekend and he would rake it all up, he would place it in plastic bags and he would take it away.

I never knew why this was done and what the purpose of it was, I asked my mom and dad and they told me it looks better. So they did it not because it is practical or best for all but simply because of how it looks.

So as a kid I found the reason the be really absurd and completely useless as it was more fun to play with the leafs and I like the way it looked and how the wind will pick the leaves up and make them dance all around the garden, How could the adults have missed all of that and perceived having no leafs was much better.

As I grew up I forgot about the leafs on the lawn because I got to cool for it, I was now more interested in the girls and making friends and parties and all my own personal stuff that seemed way much more important, such as doing my hair and what to wear and completely forgetting nature as if I am separate from it.

Obviously that was my delusion an illusion, and what I accepted as being real and natural to be, because of what my parents and my friends and teachers taught me and my environment. I gave up my physical expression with earth and nature for the belief that everything different than life is better. Because of the teachings I got from my parents through simple examples as to why they rake the grass up from the lawn.

After all of this I forgot about the enjoyment of leafs and who they are, I never even looked at a leafs again as being here, I always just saw it as something outside myself completely separated myself from it and I have forgotten the leafs.

Now with in participating with in the Desteni message and tools for the past three years and still going, I have seen the leafs again and I have realized that they have always been consistent and I have neglected them and myself as life.

I am and have spend many times looking at the leafs again and what is the purpose of them falling from the trees in winter and I have given them and the purpose attention and some research.

What I have noticed is that when it gets winter and depending on the location and country and type of weather you have like the leafs here and where I grew up was falling from the trees in winter to the ground not for nothing but with a very specific purpose. The purpose of taking care of itself as life through taking care of the beings that life with him.

The leafs that fall to the ground becomes food for the earthworms and bugs on the ground during the winter, these bugs and worms takes the dead leafs and they eat it and turn it into poop that fertilizes the soil again that prepares the new growth that comes in the summer, and this keeps the soil clean and good for all to live on and within.

And that is not the only purpose, the dead leafs create a little blanket over the grass so that when the frost comes at night and the leafs are still and laying down the frost falls on the dead leafs and does not kill the grass completely, and it does not kill the roots of the grass, and also the bugs lay underneath the dead leafs for heat and protection from the ice cold frost that comes at night.

But after I have done this research for myself I have notices many things that I have answered for myself that I had questions about.

One thing was – how did my parents/teachers as the grown-up in this world not know any off this and never taught me or anyone in school about this point of great importance and how is it that they never cared really, actually school and society only taught us to take care of ourselves at any cost and we are all going to pay dearly if we do not stop the self interest.

Because it is dame important if you look at what the consequences is of raking the leafs up. And the things is it seems like such an innocent mistake, like and oopsie, like it isn’t really that important at all, well we are fucking up big time every time we rake up all the leafs and dump it somewhere where the soil is now getting over fertilized, no more balance.

And it is really amazing if you look at how advertisements fool everyone with the perfect clear lawn/garden pictures on T.V/magazines and that if you want it like that you need their products, they do it that way because they know you will rake your leafs up to have the picture and then because you rake the leafs up you need their product, because you took the natural product (leafs) away.

And then these companies make big money.

And after years of doing this (raking the leafs up) you have made the grass dependent on all the external products that you use, so leaving the leafs now will not suddenly solve the problems because where are the bugs and the worms that got killed in the process that is needed to work with.

So we all have fucked up pretty bad, because this is how we slowly create deserts and desert the earth through participating in the mind as a picture idea and what looks good and nice, instead of what works practically and that is best for all and that will bear no consequences that is un fixable. (Consequences can be positive or negative) we want consequences that are best for all and for the best interest for all life.

So the following is to be considered within every time you rake up your leafs for your garden/lawn.

· You use money that never was necessary.

· Any protection that the bugs could have had against the cold is taken away and most of them die, bugs are beings that is keeping us humans breathing.

· The worms now have to struggle to survive and many die out (they are the super hard working beings that fertilizes all soil and that makes growth possible, alongside beetles of course, that is worms before they become beetles.

· The soil does not get proper fertilized (because the worms cannot do their job) and now you have to spend extra money on buying stuff for your lawn to make it grow better. (you got fooled)

· Half of the roots of all the grass get killed by the frost and every summer it has to re populate and grow extra or you have to spend money on special growing stuff for your lawn.

· Last but not least – we will bear the consequences, this has been created over many years, not just suddenly now, so we will have to start considering all life and what is practical and that is best for all, consider the bugs, the trees, the animals, the grass and the dead leaves.

Leave the leafs alone, they are keeping you alive. (in the bigger picture of it all you can look at it for yourself with in common sense)

Use common sense and practicality in and as the physical and stop the mind that is abusing the physical and killing it for its own purposes of complete irrelevance.

I bring this point of my own research up to show that it is small points like this that creates the bigger picture,

Just like we each are one being and really very small in the big picture of it all but yet is we change everything changes around us, we are all gardens and we need to soil ourselves with soil that is best for all so life can grow.

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Be A Rebel with a cause – World equality.

 

First Let us see clear what rebel means in the dictionary to get a perspective and then change it to that which is best for all and actually can have an outcome, as we all know current rebellion does not have any direction or any way of achieving anything that is change.

Oxford English Dictionary.

Rebel:
Definition – A person who rebels.
1. Fight against or refuse to obey an established government or ruler.
2. Resist authority, control, or accepted behaviour.

that clears out the matrix definition and as we can see it is basically a point in society that many people face with in growing up or still are doing it as adults because they have seen the system and that it is abuse and that they are actually participating in a system that they have no say about or any value as life and you are forced into it.

And because many people go rebel on societies ass they are actually only abusing themselves because there is no direction there is no solution, because from a point of common sense we can see that if I have to now go rebel on the governments ass and I succeed in what I am doing.... what then, I do not have a backup plan to change that which I was rebelling against, i simply rebelled.

This is self deception and abuse.

I did this a lot, I went rebel in school and I started doing all the rebellion things that there is to do, smoking because I was underage, drinking because I was underage, had sex before I was the appropriate age, quite school before finishing it, because I said fuck you to the matrix, the rules and the Authorities and the control as being a rebel.

I ended up only harming myself through my actions because I did not do it in a constructive directive way that can actually lead to a solution that will be best for all life and not just me.

I mean rebellion was to go against all the rules that the government made and to go against accepted behaviour such as farting in the class room and smoking in public and throwing out trash cans in the mall and for not tugging my shirt in at school while teachers would walk by.

And I did all this because of the current Money system and the rules that was created within the current money system that i had to follow to have a 50/50 chance of making money for myself one day, to be one of the lucky once that had money.

So my rebellion did not change anything except me fucking up my life and opportunities that I could have had with money and also people.

So here I am – I am still here after all i have done and accepted and allowed. I now still am a rebellion; I am a Rebellion for world equality. I stand I say the same as when I was in school. I do not want this current money system and all its stupid useless rules to exist that only allows abuse on earth.

The difference is this time I have Direction and I have a Solution, so when someone ask me why I am doing what I am doing and telling me to stop, No this time I say No and I have a cause that matters, I say with honour and self respect that I will not allow this current money system that is abusing billions of beings in existence and I stand for a new money system, A EQUAL MONEY SYSTEM that will give all life dignity and a equal opportunity.

I will say no to the current money system with direction with back up, I will have in return a solution and a way.

Because my cause for being a rebel will be that which is best for all in all ways how can all that is here then deny what I have to say and stand for when it includes them equally and for the best interest of them and all life equally.

I now say to all the Rebels that might read this and you might find yourself in a same situation that I was in, that there is a way that is constructive and has a direction and that will work.

I mean if you as a rebel are willing to use drugs, smoke, drink, beat cars up with bats, light school fields on fire or fill condoms with water and roll it in the mall where everyone walk, then you must be capable of standing for equality and heaven on earth and you must then be able to do so without shame, and you definitely have the time because you use it currently to do stuff that is more destructive then creative.

So i can here only share points that I have done as a rebel (my examples above) and how I did it and why. And now how I have changed my starting point from self interest to that which is best for all and to stand up for the animals and the plants and mother earth that gives life to us all that we are so brutally destroying and to instead use your energy for something that has an actual cause and that actually includes the best interest of you and all life equally.

I am doing this and have been for the past three years, I simply changed my starting point and with i that I found myself changing and my application.

Obviously I have had a lot of support and help with in the www.desteniiprocess.com and within simply participating on the www.desteni.co.za website and the www.equalmoney.org website, these three points is where I started focussing instead of my regular abusive patterns as a matrix rebel, I changed myself to a rebel for life.

Join me and all those that is already standing for life and that is within the process of changing to that which is best for all in all ways.

Put the Ego aside and join the group as one and as equals and we will change the world together.

Blog

Blog for equality.

Blog for that which is best for all.

Blog for a new world on earth.

Blog for heaven on earth.

Blog for the animals.

Blog for those that have no voice.

Blog for the end of abuse and suffering.

Blog about daily events that you never will read about in the newspaper.

Blog about how to take care of Pets the right way.

Blog about solutions that can change what is here into something that is best for all and help all life equally.

Blog for freedom.

Blog about something educational that school will never teach anyone that is relevant in the physical and in consideration of life.

Blog about Physical practical applications such as a building, digging a hole, planting a pole.

Blog about taking care of trees the right way that does not harm the environment or any being.

Blog about how you built something with your own hands.

Blog about animals in your environment and how they are and effecting you.

blog about changes that you see and experience in your life in relation to what is happening in the economy.

Blog about points you have faced and walked through in the physical through breathing and correcting yourself.

Blog about things that you have faced as consequences of choices you made in the past and why you learned from it.

Blog for equality and sharing information equally for all to have.

Blog about how you have found a wounded animals and took care of it till it was well again and all your methods.

Blog about how you hare taking care of your garden in an effective way that is practical and supportive for the whole environment such as Bugs, trees, animals and birds etc.

Blog about…. anything that is best for all and that support and assists all beings equally and that can be applied by all equally and that will not harm another but rather allow another to grow to learn to change and to see how to and understand.

standing in another's shoes as your own and walk it in Blogging.

I realized when i found a hurt little Birdie that i did not know how to take care of it, my first consideration was that there was people before me that has faced this exact point and they probably found practical ways on how to take care of the hurt birds at home.

I started searching the internet and I found a couple of points but they all were very vague and not clear because it was governmental pages and it did not help, they just say take it to the vet etc, but i live on a farm and the bird requires help now.

So i found a blog of someone and their personal experience they had and how they helped the birdie with feeding and nurturing etc.

It Help me a lot and I was grateful.

I realized then how I have with held so many practical points on how to do things in the physical when faced with the situations, and how so many other people might have been able to help themselves or get direction or be supported if only I took the time to share and…..

Blog for equality, love thy neighbor as thy self.

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Cannibalistic Spiders proof’s an Equal Money system will work

Equal Money will effect and change all life, from human to bug, We had and have evidence of this and that it actually work.

Within an equal money system all beings on earth, Not just Humans but bugs, plants, animals, name it all will have equality and will be taken care of as equals, they will be fed, they will have homes and habitats and they will be save.

So Last Night me and Leila and Bernard was watching National Geographic channel about what has been happening with the animals that suddenly die all around the world, they specifically talked about dolphins last night and will continue on other animals another night.

So after this show something ells was shown, it was about a huge are in a forest that was covered in a web/silk, the area was as big as a football field and it was wrapped in web/silk. This is a lot of web and it got scientists going on about what could have done this, and at such a massive rate.

So as the scientists came and started their research they discovered that it was tens of thousands of little cannibalistic spiders.

Now cannibalistic means that it is something that eats its own kind, like humans eating other humans, and these spiders eat each other if they are hungry and in need of food to survive.

So the scientists asked themselves the question of how is this possible, how can this many cannibalistic spiders be together this close to each other without eating each other. The spiders were literally almost on top of each other and all around each other thousands of them.

They discovered that not so far away there is a lake that has recently gotten floods and was in the previous years in drought, and this water attracted billions of little midgets that lived on the water and that have claimed the lake as their new home.

This created a mass amount of food for the spiders and this changed the spider’s nature and their behavior towards their neighboring spiders.

They did not have to kill each other and they did not have to fend off territories as they usually do to keep all the food to themselves, they could actually share with each other and not having to fear for their life’s and survival, it was all taken care of.

So now that the spiders did not have to kill each other and fight for territory and survival and mating mates the whole time, they actually had the time to create a massive kingdom for spiders where they all live as equals and in harmony with each other.

And they did all of this without damaging the forest as killing trees etc. it was all still functioning normal.

Now this is exactly what we want to achieve in an equal money system for all life in all corners of the earth – these spiders have proven to us Human race that no matter what our nature is if we create a new system that takes care of all equally our natures will simply fall away.

The proof is given by cannibalistic spiders.

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POINT 2–Cult - Anti Hate Campaign – Misguided points

Anti Hate Campaign – Misguided points – POINT 2 - Cult

With the Anti hate campaign that I am doing with in my blogging for the people, to inform them of the misguided points that is being given out from haters on YouTube towards us Desteni, and all over the internet through blogs and Videos that they put up with hate speech and bullying.

I will today bring up one main point that all of the Anti Desteni people use to lure other people in and try to convince other people about the points they are talking about. Basically their own fears and if you fear the same you will agree with them – stop the fear.

The point for today will be that of us being called a Cult.

First here is a dictionary definition of the word CULT.
A system of religious worship directed towards a particular person or object –

Ok so as we can see that within this definition it should basically give you a perspective on how a cult will look like, let’s take a normal Christian group of people; and let’s get the basics together

They are a group of people that has a system of religious worship, you know going to church every Sunday, some churches go 5 times a week every night, and then there is the Person such as Jesus or the object such as the cross that is being focussed on within the worshipping giving it their all and everything till death, like one big suicide. Thus here we have a clear cult.

And that can count for any religion then – people say No it isn’t the same because in Cult people are slaves to the head guy and the head guy gets everything and the head guy is mind controlling the people with fear and technique, well what is different from that then what God is doing, he uses fear to get people to follow him or you will burn in hell for eternity, he has a brainwashing book called the bible that people can’t stop using and spreading all around the world to brainwash more people into fear and to be slaves of god so they must follow him (even though he is invisible and the people that uses his name makes a shit load of money). And I mean you have to give your all (money, body and soul) to god and everything you have or you will burn.

So we at Desteni are simply a group of people that is doing our best that we can with in the current money system and state that the world is within to change it, we are using what is here to change, because there is no way to change the system outside of it, if people call us a cult they are simply adding their fear in the word towards what we are doing and standing for, because they fear actual change.

Because if you look at it any group can be called a group and can be broken down with such a word because the world has attached negative to the word and bad and mean, if it was positive and good then it would have been completely different and all it takes is a change of energy lol. So WE are not a Cult but even if we are called a Cult we will not stand down because we stand for that which matters and that is real, life and equality and a principal that all can stand by as equals.

We may learn a new vocabulary and we may shave our hair as being the activists we are, we may do Self forgiveness and live common sense and we may stand as a group – this is simply something the world has never seen before and the only way people can react towards our unity is within calling it a Cult.

So I dare all that has been misguided by others about Desteni to stop, to breathe and let go of what others has told you, see what we are doing for real and what we are standing up for – for real, see why we do it with in common sense and do your research on your own, and even better come to our forums and see for yourself what we are all about, we are creating a new world that is best for all and this requires actual physical change of self.

Do not support the hate others are spreading about anyone and anything.

Check us out at:

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www.equalmoney.org
www.desteniiprocess.com

The Anti Hate Campaign –misguided point, one of many

 

Haters towards Desteni and what we stand for and misguided points that is being given to people on YouTube through hate video’s that these people upload.

First point that many will see that is extremely misguided with in anti Desteni peoples vlogs is that they believe we are a Group of people that want to brainwash people to come to us and then we have a bigger goal that is unknown and not being shared with all.

The miss guide doing being that there is something bigger behind the scenes of what we do here at Desteni.

We here at Desteni openly gives everything to all to hear over the internet what we are doing and what our goal is, we are a bunch of people from all around the world that mostly have never even met each other in person but merely through the internet and Blogs and Vlogs and this is a point to consider for all that is getting to know Desteni, because this is a point of proof that it is self willed and each persons own decision -

we here in South Africa on the Desteni farm is and have always only given our intensions and goal up front for all to see, we want a new equal money system and we have a forum where all can go to and check out what we are all about. Really we share everything that we stand for and we are pretty dame clear on everything. being clear is a major point.

The Anti Desteni people that make videos about us that claim in so many videos that they have done research on us is only make one thing clear to all that listens to their Vlogs and that is that they actually only saw one point and did not investigate the rest of the points that is required to understand the whole and then went on and built all their research on the one point they reacted towards. like little kids throwing tantrums.

So as the Misguided point is – Anti Hate people misleads all those watching their Videos saying that they have done research and thus the misguided point that is given out to all those watching the Anti Desteni peoples Vlogs is ALL the information they are giving, so I can and will suggest to all of those that is watching and listening to the Anti Desteni people to check us out for yourselves,

Go and read the material on the forums we have and watch the videos of all the people that is participating with Desteni and that has shared their process on line for all to see nothing behind the scenes as the anti Desteni people claim– because it is there that you will see what is  going on.

Apply your own research on Desteni that is done with out any ideas that is formed with the Anti Desteni people because this is what I did before I joined Desteni and what I found was what the message was saying. And here I am after three years still with Desteni. I made my own solid decision, unlike my name!

Do not allow yourself to be misguided, instead guide yourself and research Desteni for yourself, if there is a man or women on a video saying things about a group that they do not even know the basic things about but claim they know what we are doing, know that they are misguiding you because they do it with everyone and not just Desteni, it is who they are, check them out. They are who they are with everyone but uses Desteni as a punching bag.

www.desteni.co.za

www.equalmoney.org
www.desteniiprocess.org

and do a Google search on us and on YouTube check us out we are here for world solutions and the process of self with in it all for all life as one and equal as life.